Wikipediocracy’s locker room values

Once again, it’s time to play “Wikipediocracy’s locker room values”.

In our last episode, newly minted Executive Director Katherine Maher had just tweeted from the Wikimedia conference in San Diego:

Tartan bras?  Ewww.

A little later, the mystery was solved by none other than Wikipediocracy’s main moderator and pond scum, Zoloft/William Burns, who just happened to be at the same conference, checking out the tartan bras.

At the Tilted Kilt you can meet all kinds of scantily clad women wearing tartan bras who have online profiles written in gushy monosyllables and are just dying to be your newest BFF.

So what are the woman-bashing Wikipediocrazies up to now?

They have adopted a street waif named Graaf from the Netherlands, a self-described old white hippy with no education, who has spent the last few months since his global ban making the rounds of the criticism sites, lambasting women for some unintelligible thing about the “gender gab”.  In particular, he is fixated on the personal appearance of Katherine Maher, and on someone in the Netherlands named Moira. Graaf should fit right in with Wikipediocracy.

Recently though, Graaf had a little run-in with the only woman who is currently active on the site, a visiting crank named Brill Lyle.  Now Wikipediocracy doesn’t usually tolerate women, but they will make a temporary exception for certain kinds of women:– ditsy women, women who are sexually ambiguous, and bizarrely aggressive women with macho avatars. For the moment at least, they find Brill Lyle amusing and after Graf’s latest outburst they were even willing to put him on ice for a few hours, as a token gesture, even if he was quickly unmuted.

Kui Kinyanjui (r)

The run-in centered around the newly hired WMF Vice president of Communications from Kenya, Kui Kinyanjui, and as is their habit, the Wikipediocrazies proceeded to make all kinds of comments and assumptions about her without bothering to google her profile, as they would a man.  But even the cranky Brill Lyle is not that dense, and provided a little reality check by posting the search links.  Whereupon the Graaf launched on this cringeworthy tirade:

“and do you really thing I don’t understand why [the WMF] hire suddenly some femal (sic) communication person for there (sic) contacts with press? To shake a bit with here (sic) “female parts”?  or to flirt a bit like Maher did with that journalist with here (sic) in practice is everything possible? Or with here (sic) sexy outfit with here Fact Checkers bull on that stage?”

So the idea of accusing a women with perfectly adequate qualifications of being hired for men to stare at her body must have been too much for even the sleazy tartan-bra-ogling Zoloft?  Who immediately noted it and objected to the blatant misogyny?

Aha ha ha ha.  No.

It was the “bone in nose” comment.

So trashing a professional woman, a new WMF staffer, for no reason at all other than being born female, is just fine, as long as you don’t go all Africa on her. Whatever.

And what about Maher’s attire, that Graaf finds so transgressive?

She has expensive taste, to be sure, but no more than any other ED.  That’s how they are supposed to dress, up there in the rarefied atmosphere of the C-suite.

And the “flirtatious manner”?  Judge for yourself, doesn’t float my boat, but I doubt if they are going to put Jimbo up there in a speedo just for me. Here is the whole video.

Note: Just to be perfectly clear, I have no desire to see Jimbo in any scantily clad attire whatsoever, that was just to show the ridiculousness of Graaf’s comments. Jimbo is just fine, dressed exactly the way he is, just Jimbo being Jimbo.


Non verbal cues

This is just disgusting.  This kid thinks she likes this Aziz Ansari person, and when she goes out with him, he treats her like a slut, like a hooker he’s bought and paid for.

Why are we trained that we always have to be nice to people?

So, is it still dangerous to say ‘no’ to a powerful man?  To any man?

Why we use non-verbal cues:


The saddest part of the story is not that he turned out to be just another groper, but a loss of “what might have been”, a breach of trust, a social humiliation.  She approached him as a possible romantic interest and he accepted the social contract on that level, then turned around and let her know in no uncertain terms he considered her nothing more than an appliance. She thought he was quality and she was proved wrong.

See also:

The Wilde Jagd rides on

Queen Helvig

While the ghostly Wilde Jagd, or Wild Hunt, is common across Europe, there are local wild hunts as well, such as the Danish king Valdemar Atterdag who died in 1375.  This formed the basis for composer Arnold Schoenberg’s canticle “Gurre-Lieder” of 1910. This one is perhaps not as much fun as the others, but has the advantage of having been recorded by the BBC Symphony Orchestra at the 2002 Proms, and comes complete with English subtitles.

In the first two sections, boy meets girl (Valdemar meets Tove, but it was probably really a different Valdemar), and boy loses girl (Tove dies in the bath).  One of the Valdemars’ wives, Helvig of Schleswig, is in there somewhere. Helvig has a Wikipedia article, Tove does not.

King Valdemar

The first two sections of the cantata were composed in 1900 in a Wagner-inspired late Romantic style.  In the third and last section, composed ten years later in a supposedly more pared-down Romantic style, a distraught Valdemar calls forth his deceased retainers out of their graves to ride across the sky, until the break of dawn in the last and perhaps overly dramatic finale, Seht die Sonne!  (Look, the sun).

Death by bathing

In Danish balladry, both Tove and Helvig are chewed up and spit out by The Patriarchy.  Helvig was the daughter of  Eric II, Duke of Schleswig, and one of the claimants to the Danish throne, who did quite well by giving up his claims to the throne several times in exchange for property.  Helvig married Valdemar IV in 1340, only to find Tove was already the royal favorite. Helvig brought dowry to the marriage which helped Valdemar with his politics, but she had her own castle and lived there with her court, or perhaps she was only imprisoned there — her daughter Queen Margaret I of Denmark was born at the prison of Søborg Castle.

Bain public de Russie
Russian bathhouse 1768

After bearing six children, including Queen Margaret I of Denmark, Norway and Sweden, Helvig retired to Esrum Abbey, but not before being blamed for killing Tove by overheating the bathhouse.  Now this sounds kind of weird to me.  Aren’t saunas supposed to be hot, and if it was too hot, wouldn’t you just go out and roll around in the snow?  But I have to admit I’m not really up on the medieval Danish bathhouse thing.

The final hex on Valdemar, compelling him to the wild hunt, may have been placed on him by the head of Esrum Abbey, which eventually benefited from Helvig’s royal endowments.  In those days, it didn’t pay to get on the wrong side of the clergy.

If you just want the last five minutes, Seht die Sonne is here, with subtitles:

Otherwise, the BBC production is here; you can never go wrong with the Beeb.  Scroll down for a list of songs. The orchestral prelude (Section 3, #8) starts around 1:41:00.


Part one

  1. Orchestral Prelude
  2. Nun dämpft die Dämm’rung (tenor = Waldemar)
  3. O, wenn des Mondes Strahlen (soprano = Tove)
  4. Ross! Mein Ross! (Waldemar)
  5. Sterne jubeln (Tove)
  6. So tanzen die Engel vor Gottes Thron nicht (Waldemar)
  7. Nun sag ich dir zum ersten Mal (Tove)
  8. Es ist Mitternachtszeit (Waldemar)
  9. Du sendest mir einen Liebesblick (Tove)
  10. Du wunderliche Tove! (Waldemar)
  11. Orchestral Interlude
  12. Tauben von Gurre! (mezzo-soprano = Wood Dove)

Part two

Herrgott, weißt du, was du tatest (Waldemar)

Part three

  1. Erwacht, König Waldemars Mannen wert! (Waldemar)
  2. Deckel des Sarges klappert (bass-baritone = Peasant, men’s chorus)
  3. Gegrüsst, o König (men’s chorus = Waldemar’s men)
  4. Mit Toves Stimme flüstert der Wald (Waldemar)
  5. Ein seltsamer Vogel ist so’n Aal (Klaus the Jester)
  6. Du strenger Richter droben (Waldemar)
  7. Der Hahn erhebt den Kopf zur Kraht (men’s chorus)

Des Sommerwindes wilde Jagd / The Summer Wind’s Wild Hunt

  1. Orchestral Prelude
  2. Herr Gänsefuss, Frau Gänsekraut (speaker)
  3. Seht die Sonne! (mixed chorus)

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Riding out the storm

1 wildhunt 5Until the end of Epiphany-tide, around about Jan. 17, the ghost riders of the Wild Hunt are still likely to be about.

The classic Western song about them, Ghost Riders in the Sky, has gone through numerous incarnations, in various languages, often as an instrumental.

Here is an incredible recording by Korean jazz artist Youn Sun Nah (H/T Rosashills):

Historical versions

The first commercial recording,  by Burl Ives, of Christmas Special fame, in 1949 here.  There is a compendium here with several dozen artists, from crooners to folk singers — you can use the playlist to select a particular artist.  Elvis attempts it and laughs his way through after missing the high note.

Here is the very first ever recording, done in 1949 at 78 rpm, by the songwriter, Stan Jones and his Death Valley Rangers. It has been preserved at the Internet Archives.  Can you imagine what Wikipedia’s deletionists would do to it if they could get their hands on it?

Here is another one from the archives, a scratchy and not very humorous drunk parody from 1953-ish by Spike Jones and his City Slickers, but at 2:10 it breaks into a wonderful ragtime instrumental of the tune.

Italian opera tenor Mario del Monaco, with a score for tuba:


The tune went mariachi as “Jinetes en el Cielo”: here is a supposedly rock instrumental from the 60s by “Los beatnicks”, complete with horse sound effects, but it comes off more as “Rawhide”.

Here it is from “Los Babys”, a Mexican group from 1958 that survived through the rock era, this is worth watching for the showmanship alone:

The Doors’ song “Riders on the Storm” came out of a jam session where the band was messing around with “Ghost Riders In the Sky.” Jim Morrison’s overdubbed whispered vocals were the last thing he did as an artist.

Now for the coloring:




Ghost riders

Until Epiphany-tide is over, more or less on Jan 14, beware the Wild Hunt, Wilde Jagd, Cŵn Annwn, or just plain Ghost Riders in the sky. If you actually see them, or they come into your house, keep all the doors open so they can find their way out again.

The Johnny Cash classic:

The Liszt Trancendental Etude No.8 Wilde Jagd performed by Linzi Pan. compare this with Boris Berezovsy who sweats a lot and has a Wikipedia article: Transcendental Etude No.8, Wilde Jagd (Berezovsky). Almost didn’t click on these women because they didn’t “look like” musicians–really reinforces the idea of blind auditions, no? Linzi Pan made the Washington Post at age 11.

“Omnis terra adóret te, Deus” Introit for the 2nd Sunday after Epiphany

Alexa: dudes dig me

So who reads Genderdesk?


Can we see that a little closer?

Dudes. And more dudes than the average. This is not always accurate, see for example the notes at the gender guesser , or this about gender on Twitter.

But what can I say.  Dudes are really into me.   Can’t blame them really.

What kind of dudes?

Dudes who are highly educated. Dudes with a good brain.  Dudes who know words, who have all the best words.  I was going to use the term “stable genius” but this is Wikipedia after all, maybe we can just go with “genius”.

Dudes who are not expected to do anything at work.

I don’t know why anyone would read me at home, so I’m going to go out on a limb here and say the “home” contingent on the above graph is my European fan base and they are just in a different time zone.

So these are smart dudes, but are they dudes from Wikipediocracy?


Um, no.

The only one I recognize is Wikipedia, which is a little surprising to see Barbour or his cohorts here since their site has a vaguely porny vibe. And I don’t see Wikirev either, which started out strong, but which everyone deserted since it turned into a Breitbart SEO optimization hub outpost.  They never did recover from getting trashed by IAC. The others I think have something to do with something called Rational Wiki, but that was before my time.

UPDATE: Oh my, the website is claimed by “team IAC” the paid editing clique from India with all the bizarre conspiracy theories. I have to admit it was worth it though just to see arbitrator Drmies admit to receiving his Wikipedia payoffs in bitcoin through the Cayman Islands. Too bad The Darkened Knight deleted his comments at the end, and now his account too, he knew some stuff about them.

reddit team IAC thread