Merry fucking Christmas, from arbcom with love

This is just sad.  I’m looking at the “Conduct of Mister Wiki editors” arbcom case and I see they have set the schedule to extend through the Christmas season.  If Salvidrim and the other paid editor were planning any seasonal festivities, well, they will spend the holiday twisting in the wind instead, waiting for the arbcom ax to fall. You can bet the arbitrators will be taking a break.

This isn’t just about paid editing, it’s about Wikipedia’s past history with Salvidrim.  And it looks like his relationship with the women power users, not to mention cab drivers, has been quite rocky.

Salvidrim’s response has been sad too, dropping f-bombs throughout the arbcom pages, typing a new cringeworthy mea culpa on his user page, then inexplicably taking the blame for the other editor, even though the offline communications screenshot shows otherwise.  Kind of awkward, that.  The other editor turns him on to a paid editing gig and gets dragged to arbcom for his trouble.  But Salvidrim is a sysop and the other editor is not. If arbcom turns their attention in that direction, the guy is toast.

This case has something for everyone.

The anti-COI crowd has their pitchforks and torches out, but the quarry is too often out of reach, the litigious paid editing syndicates of India harassing arbitrators in their place of work, but themselves untouchable by the law.  This gives them a home grown although much more boring target to make an example of.  It functions as a sort of SLAPP suit, making paid editing so much of a nuisance and potential liability that only the most obnoxious paid editors, like Wikipediocracy and India Against Corruption will be willing to tackle it.  The WMF strategy should be the opposite, to make paid editing so clearcut and risk free that even the most unsophisticated blundering idiot can succeed at it and drive the assholes out of business.

The anti-gamergate crowd should be happy too.  Common decency is finally coming into fashion.  As the Banner/Milo  playbook becomes clear, and the former 14-year-old trolls turn 18 and start publishing their gamergate confessionals, the 30-somethings who were hangers-on to the movement, perhaps themselves victims of a cycle of abuse, where the abused becomes an abuser, have been left high and dry with no excitement in their lives.  Will they finally develop any empathy for women, or will they be stuck forever trying to reclaim their misspent youth? As always, everything starts with self-respect, but unfortunately the arbcom’s usual sub-dom dynamic leaves little room for that.

How about some nice thoughts and prayers. Here is three minutes of Arvo Pärt, “the most performed living composer in the world” with the Magnificat Antiphon for December 19.

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13 thoughts on “Merry fucking Christmas, from arbcom with love

  1. That userpage IS cringy af isn’t it…. *frowns*

    As for “taking the blame”, I think I’ve maintained Soetermans and me share the blame for the AfC collusion but he doesn’t have any “advanced permissions” to lose and the issues definitely don’t warrant a siteban for either party so it’s clear that the ArbCom case is kinda just about me (AfC collusion + permissions on my paid alt), despite its non-finger-pointing name.

  2. Um, no. salvidrim coi screenshot4
    You say “I thought about asking you…but” and again, “as a paid editor I feel like there’s no legitimate…” You were asked, and allowed yourself to be coaxed, suggesting a script, which would seem to add some veneer of neutrality to the review, but the other editor made the suggestions and made the actual decision to do it, you just indicated you would not object. In “Adam and Eve” terms, you were tempted with the apple and finally took a nibble, while they ate the whole thing, after being told there was a worm in it. Tempting isn’t it, though, who wants to wait months for AfC.

    This is an Al Capone situation. They couldn’t get Capone for racketeering, because he had corrupted the system, so they got him for tax evasion. In looking over that old RfB, I see the Sophia article wasn’t the first time you turned the WikiInAction people loose to harass some random woman. But nobody wants to go after someone for some old gamergate action, when there is a nice juicy paid editing situation to ponder.

    1. “turned the WikiInAction people loose to harass some random woman” – whoa there, holy shit what are referring to? If you’re talking about philoSophia I worked my as off to mediate and calm the fire burning between Headbomb and SlimVirgin, even going so far as to file an ARCA myself to get their disputed interpretations clarified.

    1. That!? I made four short comments in an existing Reddit thread with 60+ posts including some long rants. The “impact” of my comments or their absence is zilch nil. 107.77.223.50 would have been the exact same scumbag transphobic misogynist of the worst grade whether I had said a few lines there or not, so I don’t think it’s fair to lay the blame for their vomit on my doorstep.

      But yes, I reiterate here, there and anywhere else that seeing two veteran editors at each others’ throats over ideological difference makes me sad.

  3. They were not “at each others’ throats”, Headbomb was at SV’s throat. He’s like that with everyone, but especially with women, that’s why his 4th RFA tanked.

    A sadistic IP finds an esoteric RFC thread after you post it on Reddit, and you think it’s a complete coincidence? Riiiiight.

    1. I did not “post the RfC thread on Reddit” jesus christ I don’t mind people holding me accountable for stuff but please at least maintain some accuracy and reasonableness.

    1. I did not start an RfC nor link to it on Reddit (but I agree there’s no point in getting lost in semantics); I did say the word “RfC”. I maintain that a few brief comments in a sea of 60+ would not have changed anything to Mr. IP’s decision to spew hatred all over Wikipedia user talk pages and I still don’t think it is fair to hold me accountable for the IP’s on-wiki posts, and even less for their abhorrent content.

      I stand by my statement that the dispute between Headbomb and SV was at an intractable impasse (the reasons for which we can argue about but I agree that most of the blame lies in HB’s yard) and that involving other people besides these two to depersonalize the situation on focus on the dispute’s content was the right thing to do.

  4. And right on schedule, the gamergate reddit decides to throw Salvidrim under the bus. So much for defending the patriarchy.

    WikiInAction is now dominated by the India Against Corruption paid editing syndicate (s?). IAC seems to have chased out The Dark Knight and the other WikiRev exiles, and is now using the subreddit to go after Alabama professor Drmies in meatspace. Drmies used to be widely regarded as the arbitrator looking after Manchester interests, and had something to do with Bishonen, Sitush, and paid editors from India — there used to be a User:Bishonen/Sitush complaint generator with extra Drmies — but I don’t remember the connection. Maybe now that he decided not to run for arbcom again they think his power base is weakened enough to go after him.

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