Dutch Wikipedia fails the global Wikimedia survey

The global Wikimedia report  singled out the Dutch Wikipedia several times for being below standard. (See Global Wikimedia survey: the number of women users drops to an all-time low of 9%.)

  • Dutch Wikipedia was lower in measurements of collaborative intent, awareness of self and others, feedback and recognition, individual commitment to diversity, and inclusive interactions.”
  • “…contributors from other Wikimedia projects (projects that are not Wikipedia, Wikidata or Commons) reported statistically significantly higher perceptions towards inclusive interactions than Dutch Wikipedia (-15.7%) …”
  • “Dutch Wikipedia contributors reported lower than at least one other project in two areas of diversity and inclusion: individual commitment to diversity and inclusive interactions.”
  • “On “Awareness of Self and Others” …Dutch Wikipedia was statistically lower from the strongest scoring community, Italian Wikipedia, and was consistently lower than all other Wikimedia projects (e.g. Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, etc.).

A recent comment here points to the global WMF office ban of a particular individual from the Dutch wiki. Small groups and small wikis can be particularly vulnerable to even limited disruption. If the problem is just one person, perhaps they can recover.

But I note that there still is no Dutch article for:

Feminism in the Netherlands [en.wiki] Feminisme in Nederland (red link)

Geerte Piening [red link] There are plenty of sources, including:

ZegHet hashtag

#ZegHet hashtag [red link] Again, lots of sources, it was reported internationally:

Anke Laterveer [red link] Not sure about the notabiity standards for NL.wiki, but she ought to be in there somewhere.  Sources:

Anne Faber (red link), murdered by a convicted sex offender with a violent background. This was a huge deal in the Netherlands, but if you are looking for the Dutch explanation from Dutch language sources, they haven’t put it together.

Netherland’s First National Public Urinal Urinating Day (red link).  There is an article for Wildplassen, but where is the article for the protest?

Americans are not so complacent.  We have an article for Every. Single. Demonstration.

And where is the English translation for the “Plaskrul” article?  What exactly is this abomination? At least the article has a video of Geerte (on a talk show, not wild-peeing).

What on earth is “plaskruizen” (urinate crosses)?

And what are all these hashtags? #peehitsthefan #first #genderequality #publictoilets #hogenood #zeikwijf

Here is a “Krul”.  Women are expected to use this or the police will arrest them.  Ask Geerte Piening. (Oops, red link.)

How does a woman use this?  Well, here is a purple plastic fake penis.  It only has one star though, the text in Dutch says it doesn’t work and the lady ended up putting it in the barn to use as a funnel.

Did you know that Amsterdam is “a city where so many men urinate publicly each year that at least 15 of them drown by falling into canals while relieving themselves.” Wouldn’t that make a great DYK hook for the front page of the Dutch Wikipedia”.

But where is the Dutch Wikipedia article for “Dutch urination deaths“?

  • British tourist dies after falling into Amsterdam canal while urinating.(Okay, it looks like a Daily Mail type publication, but still. If the Amsterdam Public Health Service (GGD) has warned about the danger of urinating into canals, there must be some reliable source for it, somewhere.
  • “Guido Reijnen, forensisch arts bij de Amsterdamse GGD, hebben veel van die incidenten een gemene deler. Tachtig procent van de verdrinkingsslachtoffers is man – zo ook de slachtoffers deze maand.” Source.
  • Death by taking a piss: “These deaths are easy to spot: they find the body with the fly open.” Oh my.  What a terrible demise.  Does Wikipedia have no responsibility in this matter?
  • Yes, a reliable source has turned up, and once again, it leads back to Manchester, which also has canals.  From no less than BBC:  “The Dutch study also contains other clues to what may be happening in Manchester. Many drownings happen on Saturday night and Sunday morning. More than half of those who died had been drinking or taking drugs. Ten per cent of the men’s bodies recovered from the water were found with their zips open.” That must be a British word for zipper.

Yes yes I know “what about the men” is always an excuse not to talk about women, but in this case, what ABOUT the men? They are expected to act decently on the Dutch Wikipedia, but then the Dutch government turns around and builds men’s urinals right out on the street that come out of the ground when you push a button. What kind of mixed message is that?  They have to pee out in public, in front of God and everyone. 

amsterdam public urinals

Amsterdam will be cold this week, and there they are, out there in the cold cold air, with their fragile and delicate Gentleman Parts exposed to the icy winds.

Enough is enough.  I do not believe that Dutch Wikipedia’s  gender problem will be solved until the Dutch men have a proper place to pee.  With baby-changing stations.Maybe now that Amsterdam has its first woman mayor, Femke Halsema, there will be some action on this.  She will have to pee somewhere.

I have seen plans and proposals, and even engineering drawings for some of these infrastructure solutions.


The Dutch Wikipedia should be in the forefront of education, making this information easily available to the public, and to public officials. If necessary, they could even hold a few edit-a-thons to pry some of this information loose from whoever is holding it, and get it into the public domain.  And if there are not enough reliable sources, they need to hold some more meetups with the news services, so they understand the whole concept of sourcing, and their role in it.

 

2 thoughts on “Dutch Wikipedia fails the global Wikimedia survey

  1. Yes, you can lock the door and there is usually a urinal inside next to the door, also a toilet seat, but you would be crazy to sit on it. They usually smell, and the floor is wet, you don’t want to know what is on the floor, but they are better than nothing. Also, they are temporary and are usually taken away after the event, except on construction sites. And yes, everyone can use them.

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