Should admins be held accountable?

Should there be a binding community desysop procedure to remove administrators?

Request for comment (RfC) here:

Requests for comment/2019 community sentiment on binding desysop procedure.

What, a system of checks and balances that holds admins to account? What an amazing thought. There is already WP:ADMINACCT but no way to enforce it. At present, the only way to remove an admin is through the arbitration committee. The comment here cracked me up: “Anyone proposing to send anything to Arbcom right now must be drunk.”

An interesting discussion at Wikipediocracy notes that while admins make up a small proportion of the editing community, the majority of responses have been by admins. Clearly there has been canvassing at the places where admins are likely to hang out.

LOL at this comment.

“I’d love to see how these discussions/!votes would go if we separated admin !votes from non-admin !votes. I personally feel that all administrators have an insurmountable conflict-of-interest when it comes to a community desysop procedure.”

Yes. At Arbitration Enforcement WP:AE, the admins make the non-admins comment in a different section. Let the admins go to the back of the bus for a change. And make it really really evident how much privilege they think they have.

2 thoughts on “Should admins be held accountable?

  1. Comment by GreenMeansGo (GMG):

    I don’t buy the assumption that a months long ArbCom case (as likely as anything to get you covered in real-world reliable sources) is somehow less of a spectacle than a week of community discussion. Nor is it particularly effective. Here is a case that required somewhere between four and seven requests for ArbCom to act. Here is a user who had to be blocked four times over two years before ArbCom took action. Here we have fourteen months of poor decision making (more than 100 individual diffs in the evidence page) necessary between “clear abuse” and ArbCom. Here is an instance where it was easier to get a CBAN than to get a case. That’s not a system that avoids spectacle; that’s a system that feasts on a menagerie of spectacle just to gear up for the main event. And it is a system that fundamentally holds administrators to a lower and not higher standard than the average user.

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