Wikimania closing ceremony: “Civility” or “harassment”?

Free Loujain.

If you watch the Wikimania videos, the closing ceremony looked serene.  But apparently everyone was busy tweeting about the difference between civility and harassment.

Although Jimbo traditionally presents the awards, there was only one award this year, Wikipedian of the Year, to a woman wearing a Loujain t-shirt.   The time allotted to the Jimbo speech was short this year.  Wikipedia is a teenager now, and teenagers don’t like to listen to their parents.

But two things happened.  Jimbo centered his comments on “civility”, quoting his remarks from other years. And Katherine’s remarks about “harassment” received a standing ovation.

So which is it, civility or harassment.

Civility is an old world concept.  Civility is thought to be valuable because it promotes discourse and agreement.  It is a gentlemanly virtue.

Traditional lady-virtues have more to do with appearances, wearing white gloves, clutching pearls, and avoiding politicized speech. Or perhaps avoiding speech entirely.  But this is the 21st century, so not gonna happen.

So perhaps in some way this is a gendered discussion.

Framing it as “civility” is a way to gloss over what is really happening, and give dudes an excuse for behaving badly.

So let’s take away the fig leaf.

It’s harassment.



Estivate is to summer as hibernate is to winter.

es·ti·vate  /ˈestəˌvāt/ verb

spend a hot or dry period in a prolonged state of torpor or dormancy.


Yes, I think it is about time.

Of course I probably will not be able to resist popping in for a few remarks now and then, but gonna try.

Wishing the best summer ever to all my devoted fans.

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2019 editor gender survey – the final solution

Yesterday, Midsize “Somey” Jake commented, “Surely by 2109, all of this gender-related conflict will be behind us?”

So that got me thinking.  What can we infer from the statistics.  We had all kinds of surveys from the WMF, so why not put some of them to use.

I was going to do the calculations on the back of a napkin, like some blogs do with their breakfast calculation posts, but unfortunately I have spilled some coffee and the napkin is now a bit damp.

So I have delegated the task to my Evil Twin, who has outsourced the task to one of the other twins who runs the Desk’s statistics department.   I’m not really sure who did the analysis, since yesterday Andrew Brundle of AB Website Design Bangkok came by acting all mean and dropped a bunch of c-bombs in the comments, and the other twin is already really shy, but now she is so utterly terrified she will not even reveal her pseudonym.

But here is the calculation.

The answer is that women will disappear from Wikipedia completely by 2028, unless they are quickly replaced by men impersonating women.

I like it when people show their work.  Then you can use their research to see if the results can be replicated. In this case the research was based on published WMF data, see Global Wikimedia survey: the number of women users drops to an all-time low of 9%. The drawing was done in 3D Paint with a 5 pixel marker, which I believe is the default, and which I believe produces an annoying popup on the desktop, so this may be the last time we see this methodology.

In case anyone wants to snatch it for nefarious purposes, I have cleaned it up a little, and added the copyright info. 😉

Women in Wikipedia 2019 1

Always happy to help the folk over at Wikipediocracy whenever they have a burning question about gender.

2109 editor gender survey

I suppose this is for me.

Other than not understanding the “Ohara” part, that will do quite nicely.

This is good, this is very good.

Sums it up quite nicely.

Please do carry on.

A few details: they forgot the link, which I have nabbed from Sucks.

So what if a 10-year-old boy gets the survey?  He is definitely male, but is he a “man” or “other”?

The original survey was meant for people reading Wikipedia, not editors. Anyone under 18 was excluded from the survey.

But now children will be counted as “not men”.

woman definition
the new “hate speech”

Are transwomen really women?  There used to be lady-boys, female impersonators, and cross-dressers, and this used to be something fun.  But  now gays are being told they have just been reincarnated into someone else’s body, and that being gay is a “wrong” body.  But not to worry, the solution can be purchased from Big Pharma.  Follow the money.  Who is financing Stonewall these days?

Also Jessica Yaniv, of testicle-waxing fame (but are they or are they not lady-testicles?) has been arrested and is starting to look a bit too interested in underage girls (the Blaire interview is here).  So we may see Stonewall fanboyz like Fae start backing off sometime soon. (In spite of what the Wikipediocrazies say, there are a lot of people who used to have some respect for Fae.)

Also, this does not seem right

We use Man/Woman instead of Male/Female as we are asking about gender and not sex.

Are they using the U.S. or the U.K. meaning for sex/gender?

In the U.S. “gender” is the basis for the 1964 anti-discrimination legislation, a genteel wording that was originated by the notorious RBG, back in her ACLU days.

In the U.K. women have “sex” based rights, (2004 Gender Recognition Act), that include privacy and single sex spaces.

So if they are doing a “gender” survey, they should probably get someone in there who is familiar with the territory. If you want a sample, google “women don’t have penises” or check out @Glinner on Twitter: “we told you about Mermaids & Yaniv and you called us bigots”.

In the meantime, the WMF will be counting boys and gay men as “women”. Then they can say the gender problem is solved and dissolve Trust & Safety.

Riding the storm out

If there is anyone out there who I owe an email, you’re probably not going to get it tonight.

GenderLand has been inundated with storms, and it is only by a miracle, i.e. trudging through rain-drenched streets, that I have been able to reach the interwebs at all.

This too shall pass.

In the meantime, I will be resuming the earlier Kondo exercises for de-cluttering. Where was I?

I still don’t think Marie Kondo would keep me as a pet.

Oh yes, does it spark joy?

This time it’s gonna work. No really.  I’m still on the first item, clothes, and have been since winter, but this time I have the advantage.  No internet, right?

Free checklist, better download it to my desktop before I go back.

Is Auggie down?

So I was just trying to google an email address for Auggie, over at the Wikipedia criticism site Wikirev(DOT) org, to ask him about the forum screenshot he offered to send me, and I saw this.

wikirev down

Someone had written a nasty post about me, with the b-word and a lot more.  There is a screenshot in the comments here

Auggie on Wikipediocracy
Auggie on Wikipediocracy

Last night Auggie wrote a new post, saying he took it down as soon as he saw it. So thank you for that.

Originally he put it in a members-only forum to keep it out of the search engines, then removed it completely, and blocked the participants. Anyhow, thank you to the participants who defended me, and I’m sorry you were blocked.

So, Auggie, how do I get in touch with you.

And what on earth is going on.

Encyc is offline???

(“Encyc” is Auggie’s online encyclopedia, with something like 4,000 entries.)

Main page:

encyc main page down screenshot

Main page google cache from yesterday (Aug 4):

encyc main page google cache screenshot


Ah this might explain it.

Auggie mystery1

Someone posted some information about Auggie, and the forum mods only redacted the phone number.

Auggie mystery

“He’s been outing nobodies anyway.”


“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him,
“for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. –Matthew 26:52