Dead Russian generals

March 19 ⁠— “A fifth Russian general has reportedly been wiped out by Ukrainian defenders amid the ongoing invasion by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s forces of Ukraine. The latest general from Putin’s side to reportedly die in combat in Ukraine is Russian Lieutenant-General Andrei Mordvichev, …

Already there is a Wikipedia article. Several, in fact, in eight languages, so far.

No photo yet, although the Chinese WP has uploaded one as fair use.

The Russian language article for Oleg Mityaev has been nominated for deletion. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Митяев, Олег Юрьевич   https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:К_удалению/16_марта_2022#Митяев,_Олег_Юрьевич

…but the last comment says “keep”, because otherwise will have to delete a lot from this list.  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Генерал-майоры (Российская Федерация)  [Category:Major Generals (Russian Federation)]

Likewise the Russian language article for Andrey Sukhovetsky seems to be shaping up as “keep conditionally for 8 months”.  Looks like someone is also making a case based on page views, which is now down to around 5,000 a day, from a high of over 40,000 a day.  Looks like they are also referring to Ukraine as a military “operation” as is the proper term for official Russian channels, although maybe someone who speaks Russian can confirm the terminology. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Суховецкий, Андрей Александрович  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:К_удалению/4_марта_2022#Суховецкий,_Андрей_Александрович

Likewise some of the photos have been nominated for deletion, which will presumably be accomplished after they have served their purpose, if at all.

Free use:

Open source:

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Two more confirmed dead, a third injured and evac’d, names not released. 49th Combined Arms Army   https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/23/7341610/

3 thoughts on “Dead Russian generals

  1. There have been noises about that going back three weeks now.

    *https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvnpq5/russia-threatens-to-block-wikipedia-for-stating-facts-about-its-war-casualties-editors-say
    *https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/3/22960007/russia-wikipedia-wikimedia-foundation-censorship-demand
    *Wikimedia Foundation statement: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2022/03/03/wikimedia-foundation-stands-with-communities-defending-free-knowledge/

    More in the last few hours, Kiwix has been very active:
    *https://mashable.com/article/wikipedia-russia-downloads
    *https://slate.com/technology/2022/03/russia-wikipedia-download-kiwix.html

    Wikipedia is the least of their worries. Russia’s largest social media site, VK, has just been hacked: https://cybernews.com/cyber-war/russian-social-media-giant-vk-allegedly-hacked/

    If that does happen, I would expect workarounds, like they did with Turkey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_of_Wikipedia_in_Turkey#Circumvention

  2. A new piece in WaPo cites Stephen LaPorte of WMF legal, “What sites blocked by Russia can learn from Wikipedia’s ban in Turkey” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/25/what-sites-blocked-by-russia-can-learn-wikipedias-ban-turkey/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220325134816/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/25/what-sites-blocked-by-russia-can-learn-wikipedias-ban-turkey/

    According to Wikipedia, Russia is now doing what most POV editors try to do, put their own POV into the articles and dox (or imprison) anyone who tries to keep the articles neutral. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Wikipedia_in_Russia Do you suppose the new T&S “Disinformation” team is on it?

    Haaretz is now reporting on the arrest of Mark Bernstein for making edits that contradict the official Russian casualty count. (paywalled) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/.premium-russia-s-war-on-truth-top-wikipedia-editor-arrested-1.10673735 This is not a bad WP article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Mark_Bernstein

    In the meantime the Russians have also decided to release their own death count. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-releases-its-forces-death-toll-in-ukraine-revealing-staggering-losses/ar-AAVuUZp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8efc0bcd4acd4f6296a846232947266b https://www.npr.org/live-updates/ukraine-russia-biden-poland-03-25-2022#russia-says-1-351-of-its-soldiers-have-died-in-ukraine-war They released a different one earlier, but deleted it again.

    It looks like Facebook and Twitter are already blocked in Russia, but those have typically been used in various countries for organizing demonstrations. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russia-completely-blocks-access-to-facebook-and-twitter

    At this point I am starting to be concerned about the lack of reporting on detained and kidnapped journalists. https://www.npr.org/2022/03/25/1088808627/ukrainian-journalists-missing-detained For instance, Ukrainian journalist Viktoriia Roshchyna was missing for several days before she was released.

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